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Racism in Football?

Postby Nick » Fri Dec 23, 2011 9:15 pm

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Re: Racism in Football?

Postby Lynda » Sat Dec 24, 2011 8:49 am

I was expecting a discussion - I'm disappointed.
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Re: Racism in Football?

Postby Nick » Sat Dec 24, 2011 10:37 am

John Terry isn't racist - he has friends with black wives.

I was more puzzled about the row about Hansen saying "coloured" - it obviously caused offence in some quarters (as will the above joke), but the offence is extremely sophisticated, and difficult for me to understand. He plainly isn't racist, was trying not to be racist, and I can't see what you can do to satisfy someone who would take offence.
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Re: Racism in Football?

Postby slagthemoff » Sat Dec 24, 2011 11:08 am

The fact that 'coloured' is inappropriate was a new one on me...

I'm 'White, English' but I don't mind being grouped with Welsh, Scottish, Irish or anyone else really.

Funny, I thought 'black' was offensive. Apparently, 'Asian' is offensive in some circles as 'Chinese Asians' don't want to be grouped with 'All Asians'.

If it's going to be this hard I'll stick with dogs...
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Re: Racism in Football?

Postby Nick » Sat Dec 24, 2011 11:41 am

It's worth watching Lea Dixon while playing this :lol:

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Re: Racism in Football?

Postby Lynda » Sat Dec 24, 2011 12:50 pm

"Coloured" has been a no-no for quite some time now. Black is the term to use. Strange thing is though that very few people are actually black. Various shades of brown - yes, but not black.

I don't like John Terry very much but I don't believe his controversial comment was intended as racist. The only colour that matters to footballers and genuine fans is the colour of the strip. I bet Terry would never say the same thing to Drogba or Malouda.

I have to admit to being guilty of hurling abuse (possibly racist-sounding) at Adebayor when he played for Arsenal (only in my own home, of course) but I would never do it now that he plays for Spurs.
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Re: Racism in Football?

Postby Nick » Sat Dec 24, 2011 1:16 pm

At last some sense - Evra is a Bl*ck B@st@rd & so are both the Ferdinands, but Malouda, Mikel, Kalou etc etc aren't. Unless you are a Man U Fan in which case Malouda, Mikel, Kalou are Bl*ck B@st@rds, but Evra isn't. And Hansen should be sacked for colour blindness.

BTW - I thought the OP was an astute comment on B@st@rds in football.
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Re: Racism in Football?

Postby Lynda » Sat Dec 24, 2011 10:23 pm

I have no idea what Hansen said. I couldn't watch it.
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Re: Racism in Football?

Postby keith » Mon Dec 26, 2011 12:03 am

Who the F is Lea Dixon ( my guess is some sort of porn star )

and as to coloured aren't we all

I'm sort of Pinkish ( unless I've got a sun tan ), or embarassed in which case I go red

Evra is a sort of dark Brown

Most Greeks etc are a sort of olive colour

Martians are green

and so on
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Re: Racism in Football?

Postby keith » Mon Dec 26, 2011 12:06 am

And Robert Mugabe is a Murdering C*&%

Whatever colour he may be

BTW what colour was Micheal jackson ?
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Re: Racism in Football?

Postby slagthemoff » Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:47 am

So, let me get this right...

...it's okay to be called bl*ck even if you're not but nobody is coloured even though we all are.

You can call someone 'black' and it's not offensive; you can call someone a 'b*st*rd' and it's offensive but not racist.

However, if you call someone a 'bl*ck b*st*rd' it's racist ...

...although there could be a justification, depending upon which side of the terrace you stand?

A bit like it's okay to be a 'fudge packer' but only if you work for Cadbury?

Got it!

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Re: Racism in Football?

Postby Lynda » Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:04 am

John Terry is an arrogant b*stard but I don't belive he's racist.
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Re: Racism in Football?

Postby slagthemoff » Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:15 am

I don't think he's racist either - it's just an opportunity for the PC brigade to have a good old squawk.....
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Re: Racism in Football?

Postby Lynda » Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:52 pm

They obviously don't know the first thing about football.

Luis Suarez has been fined for racism on the word of Patrick Evra only and we all know from last year's World Cup what a troublemaker he is.
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Re: Racism in Football?

Postby keith » Tue Dec 27, 2011 7:42 pm

I don't think Evra is a troublemaker, if he was he'd have been out of the Door at United one thing Sir Alex won't stand is troublemakers, that's why Stam, Heinze, Lee Sharpe and others have been shown the door.

If you'd seen the Incident that led to the World cup problems for France IE the Big Row Evra and the Manager are perfectly calm and having a reasoned discission, the fitness coach blows his top at EVRA ( who as captain was entitled to explain the viewpoint of the team to the manager ) in fact the manager drags the coach away.

I think the squad were trying to do their best for the team after all you don't kick your best player out of the squad during a competition, you negotiate and resolve the issue.

Yes Anelka is a Pratt, but I don't think any manager should throw a player out of the squad for argueing with him.

Anyhow the truth of the matter is that Suarez convicted himself in his evidence he admitted what he'd done but said it was equivalent to calling him "mate"
the point being he used a word that refered to race by calling him a Negro.
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