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ECO Affordable Warmth Boiler Replacement

Postby NickD » Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:46 am

Hi All,

I have received an unsolicited approach from Becoming Green UK Ltd in Cardiff, via an elderly tenant of mine, and wondered what experience any of you may have of the "Affordable Warmth" scheme?

I am told that given the existing boiler is over 8 years old and that the tenant receives certain benefits, she can have a new boiler fitted free of charge. I have done some preliminary digging around to try and investigate this scheme, which to be honest I had never heard of.

Alarms are ringing in my cynical side for reasons such as Becoming Green ringing my mobile from a blocked number and since their original call on Friday afternoon, when I was told a new boiler could be fitted within a week, this has today increased to 4 - 5 weeks given the popularity of the scheme!

My gut feel is they may be a bunch of cowboys riding on the back of a legitimate scheme.

Any feedback would be appreciated.

Thanks, Nick D.
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Re: ECO Affordable Warmth Boiler Replacement

Postby Nick » Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:58 am

Nick,

I'm not sure I have much to help you with, I have tried to get subsidised energy saving measures and never found anything worth signing up for. I have done several schemes where the hot water is heated by solar panels, funding the cost myself for the energy savings.
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Re: ECO Affordable Warmth Boiler Replacement

Postby Jo King » Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:09 pm

Hi Nick

I can't help you with the specific organisation that has contacted you but they should be accredited installers under the Affordable Warmth Obligation scheme which does apply to Landlords and I know a few have said on Facebook BMV that they've had old boilers replaced free of charge and they seemed very happy about it. I think I'd start by ringing the Energy Saving Trust if it were me and getting a list of accredited installers http://www.energysavingtrust.org.uk/Take-action/Find-a-grant/Green-Deal-and-ECO

Affordable Warmth Obligation

To provide heating and insulation improvements for low-income and vulnerable households (but social housing tenants are not eligible for affordable warmth).

There are complex eligibility criteria for this means-tested scheme. Call the Energy Saving Advice Service on 0300 123 1234 to check whether you might be eligible, and to apply if you are.


My parents had a replacement heating system installed under the old scheme 'Warmfront' and that was a bit of a nightmare with shoddy workmanship - leaking hot water, dodgy electrics and damaged carpet, but they were compensated in the end.
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Re: ECO Affordable Warmth Boiler Replacement

Postby Steve Griff » Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:28 pm

The new scheme is called 'Eco' I believe, it replaced Warmfront in England and Nest in Wales, but it has been up in the air for ages now, so they may just be list building, not sure.

I had one boiler changed under the old scheme, I will make some enquiries after this weekend.
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Re: ECO Affordable Warmth Boiler Replacement

Postby NickD » Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:26 am

Thanks for your replies.

I just had a very interesting chat with the Trust Jo suggested I speak to, who without being to comment directly on individual companies, recommended I look for a certain BBC programme on the interweb.

So it turns out they are specialists in cold calling and cashing cheques taken as "holding deposits" with no assessor turning up. Then there is the small matter of around £100k in CCJ against the owner relating to two previous companies.

Time me thinks for laws re bankruptcy, pre-pack administrations and dishonest Directors' dealings to be made a hell of a lot tougher.
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Re: ECO Affordable Warmth Boiler Replacement

Postby Jo King » Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:34 am

Thank you for sharing that info Nick. Did they tell you about the scheme in general and if it has any merit?
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Re: ECO Affordable Warmth Boiler Replacement

Postby NickD » Thu Jul 18, 2013 1:01 pm

Jo King wrote:Thank you for sharing that info Nick. Did they tell you about the scheme in general and if it has any merit?


Hi Jo,

Yes, apparently it is a new scheme run via the major 6 energy suppliers.

The existing boiler needs to be over 8 years old and the tenant / owner in receipt of certain benefits to qualify. As the lady tenant there receives a pension and various benefits for ill health, she is apparently eligible. I'm going top go direct the energy company (Going Green have now taken to calling me using various mobile numbers!) and will keep you posted.
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Re: ECO Affordable Warmth Boiler Replacement

Postby Jo King » Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:25 pm

Thanks Nick - useful to know.

If this article is correct and it's the company you're referring to then it's comforting to know your mobile number(s) may be in the hands of a Prison Inmate or two http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-19184054
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Re: ECO Affordable Warmth Boiler Replacement

Postby LeslieHarrison » Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:41 am

Nick wrote:Nick,

I'm not sure I have much to help you with, I have tried to get subsidised energy saving measures and never found anything worth signing up for. I have done several schemes where the hot water is heated by solar panels, funding the cost myself for the energy savings.

Even I have tried various energy saving methods and best one is to use solar panels for heat and electricity generation.
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Re: ECO Affordable Warmth Boiler Replacement

Postby LeslieHarrison » Mon Nov 18, 2013 5:09 pm

LeslieHarrison wrote:
Nick wrote:Nick,

I'm not sure I have much to help you with, I have tried to get subsidised energy saving measures and never found anything worth signing up for. I have done several schemes where the hot water is heated by solar panels, funding the cost myself for the energy savings
.

Even I have tried various energy saving methods and best one is to use solar panels for heat and electricity generation.
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Re: ECO Affordable Warmth Boiler Replacement

Postby Steve Griff » Mon Nov 18, 2013 8:15 pm

I have found burning the solar panels over a peat bonfire in the fireplace gives plenty of warmth for a while.
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Re: ECO Affordable Warmth Boiler Replacement

Postby keith » Sun Dec 01, 2013 9:28 pm

Was in a council building last week and they have proudly up on the wall, obviously computerised figures for saving using the Panels etc, The one I found funny was

Temperature of water to Solar Panel 14 degrees
Temperature of Salar Panel 6 degrees

so by my maths running through the solar panel cools it down
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